[NLNOG] Use of NLNOG RING nodes on HE's supertraceroute tool

[Pim van Pelt]

Hoi,

Thanks, Teun. Good call and I support the outcome.

groet,
Pim

On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 5:37 PM Teun Vink via NLNOG <nlnog at nlnog.net> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> In the last couple of days, NLNOG RING admins and the NLNOG board have
> received a number of questions about the new Hurricane Electric
> supertraceroute tool (hosted on bgp.he.net) using NLNOG RING nodes as a
> datasource.
>
> To our disappointment, Hurricane Electric has not asked permission for
> or even announced the use of the NLNOG RING for this purpose before
> releasing the tool.
>
> A number of RING node owners have indicated that they're not happy with
> their node being publicly accessible for this purpose, on a website
> hosted by a third party. This conflicts with the philosophy that the
> RING is built on mutual trust and managed as a community.
>
> As NLNOG Board, we understand these concerns and have requested
> Hurricane Electric to stop using NLNOG RING nodes this way. In addition,
> the SSH keys identified as used for this purpose will be disabled by
> NLNOG RING admins.
>
> In general, NLNOG encourages people to use the NLNOG RING to provide
> services for the good of the internet and especially RING owners. The
> way this was done by Hurricane Electric violated the trust on which the
> RING is built and the community spirit. We will try to see if there's a
> way we can make an arrangement with Hurricane Electric to enable use of
> RING nodes in a way that meets expectations of RING node owners, for
> example by using an opt-in model.
>
> Please don't hesistate to contact the board or the RING admin team if
> you have any questions on this subject.
>
> On behalf of the NLNOG Board,
> Teun Vink
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